Golshifteh Farahani: "Kuv yog lub paj vwm hauv kev hlub"

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"Lubpsychoanalysis, rau kuv, yog kev vwm. Yog tias koj sim nkag siab txog kab ntsig kom meej, nws yuav tsis dhau los ua npauj npaim. Qhov tseem ceeb yog qhov muaj peev xwm, qhov koj muaj peev xwm ua tau, tsis yog qhov tshwm sim rau koj yav dhau los. Nws tsis muaj teeb meem dab tsi kab ntsig yog dab tsi, tab sis hom npauj npaim yuav tig mus rau hauv.' Golshifteh Farahani - 36 xyoo hnav nrog sublime tsis saib xyuas ntawm thawj cov plaub hau dawb - nws muaj siab, siab dawb. Nws yog dawb: nws tsis qab zib cov lus pom zoo, txawm tias nyob rau hauv Ib lub rooj zaum hauv Tunis, ib tug zoo siab comedy qhia los ntawm Manele Labidi, nws yeej plays ib… psychoanalyst. Ib tug kws tshaj lij uas - tom qab Arab Caij Nplooj Ntoos Hlav - txiav txim siab rov qab los ntawm Paris rau nws lub nroog ib txwm qhib lub studio hauv ib cheeb tsam nrov, thaum muaj kev sib xyaw ntawm kev xav, kev xav, kev nyiam, kev tsis ntseeg, kev sim tawm tsam.

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"Thaum kuv nyeem tsab ntawv kuv pom nws funny, ironic thiab tsis superficial, ntawm qhov tsis sib xws! Koj luag ntau thiab nug koj tus kheej tib lub sijhawm, "nws piav qhia tus actress, txwv los ntawm Iran txij thaum 2008. Qhov txhaum? Tau koom nrog hauv Asmeskas blockbuster, Tsis muaj tseeb los ntawm Ridley Scott (thiab lwm cov blockbusters yuav tuaj, zoo li tshooj tsib ntawm Pirates ntawm lub Caribbean, as well as auteur films xws li Paterson los ntawm Jim Jarmush). Txij thaum ntawd los - txawm tias tsev neeg tseem nyob ntawd - nws tsis muaj peev xwm taug kev hauv nws lub tebchaws. "Tau kawg kuv xav rov qab mus, txawm li cas los xij kuv paub tias kuv lub neej tau hloov pauv thiab qhov ntawd, yog tias koj tshem tawm tsob ntoo, koj tsis tuaj yeem rov cog nws nyob rau hauv tib qho xwm txheej txawm tias nyob hauv tib qhov chaw nws nyob. Nws dhau lawm. Kuv loj hlob kuv cov hauv paus hniav hauv huab cua, zoo li orchids. Kuv mus qhov twg los kuv nqa tsev nrog kuv. Kuv yog kuv tsev ».

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Calm thiab introverted

Nws yug hauv Tehran; Selma - lub protagonist ntawm zaj duab xis - nyob rau hauv Tunis.
Ua tsaug rau tam sim no irreversible txheej txheem ntawm kev loj hlob, thoob plaws lub ntiaj teb no peb tau los nyob ze thiab ze rau ib leeg. Tunisia yog ib lub tebchaws Muslim uas cov poj niam muaj cai ntau dua thiab muaj kev hwm ntau dua. Lawv muaj zog ib yam li Iranians, hmoov tsis cov Iranians raug tsim txom ...
Nws hloov pauv dab tsi ntawm nws tus kheej mus rau tus cwj pwm?
Qee qhov "heaviness", tsis nyob rau hauv qhov tsis zoo: ib qho "immobile ntsiag to". Kuv nyob twj ywm thiab introverted, txawm hais tias qhov opposite yuav tshwm sim: Kuv nyob ib leeg nrog kuv tus kheej zoo. Thiab Selma txoj kev ntsiag to ntawm kev hais lus, taug kev, ua av, cag hauv ntiaj teb, yog kuv li.


"Kuv tu siab heev"

Ib tug feature ntawm xwm los yog ib tug ua tiav?
Tsis yog, nws tsis yog los ntawm qhov: Kuv exuded zog, maj mam kuv kawm siv nws nyob rau hauv ib txoj kev sib txawv, tsis txhob nkim nws. Kuv zoo li cov kwj deg uas cov roj tsis tu ncua khiav tawm thiab kub hnyiab: Kuv xav tias kuv yuav tsum txo qis kom tsis txhob tawg. Tam sim no kuv zoo txawm tias kuv tsis hlawv txhua lub sijhawm ... (smiles) Vipassana meditation (ib txheej txheem ntawm kev ua hauj lwm ntawm kev ntseeg, ndr) muab kev pab loj heev rau kuv.
Koj nrhiav tau li cas?
Nws funny: kuv tus tij laug pib xyaum nws hauv Is Nrias teb, ua raws li kuv niam hauv Iran. Thaum kuv yuav tsum tawm hauv lub tebchaws, kuv tu siab heev uas lawv thov kom kuv mus koom ib qho ntawm lawv txoj kev tawm tsam. Txij thaum ntawd los kuv tau mus koom lawv tsis tu ncua: muaj chaw ua haujlwm nyob txhua qhov chaw, txawm nyob hauv Fabkis.

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"Kuv tau pom ib qho khoom muaj nqis"

Cov retreats qhov twg koj nyob twj ywm rau kaum hnub, tsis muaj kev sib cuag?
Raws nraim. Nws tau tig los ua lub qhov rais mus rau qhov tseeb qhov kawg. Niaj hnub no kuv nyob nruab nrab ntau dua, paub tias lub neej tsuas yog ib feem ntawm lub sijhawm uas tau muab rau peb. Tias txhua yam yog impermanent, nws dhau mus, thiab qhov zoo. Kev tshwm sim zoo li ib zaj yeeb yaj kiab: peb tsis nco qab tias peb tab tom saib nws thiab peb txheeb xyuas peb tus kheej kiag li, tsis muaj qhov kev sib cais uas yog qhov tsim nyog. Kuv muaj hmoo: Kuv tsis tau mus nrhiav ib tug xibhwb ntawm sab ntsuj plig, nrhiav cov lus teb. Kuv tsuas tso siab rau qhov tam sim no thiab cov lus teb tuaj… Kuv tsis tau vam tias yuav muaj cov khoom muaj nqis, Kuv tau dawm ntawm nws thaum taug kev.
Los ntawm qhov kev xav ntawm qhov tshwj xeeb yog vipassana muaj txiaj ntsig?
Nyob rau hauv txoj kev loj hlob ntawm kev paub. Thaum kev xav, kev xav, kev xav tshwm sim, koj tsuas yog yuav tsum paub txog lawv. Thiab twv seb lawv tuaj qhov twg los, vim li cas lawv tshwm sim lawv tus kheej, thiab tom qab ntawd cia lawv mus yam tsis muaj kev cuam tshuam tsis zoo.

"Nws tau tsav kuv tawm ntawm kuv lub siab"

Zoo, nws muaj ntau yam nrog psychoanalysis ...
Yog, rau qhov zoo dua. Kuv hais qhov no nrog kev paub txog qhov tseeb: Kuv nyob hauv Paris thiab muaj ntau tus neeg xav nrog "psy", thiab rau ib xyoos kuv sim. Txaus siab, tab sis nws tau tsav kuv tawm ntawm kuv lub siab. Rau lub ntuj ceeb tsheej, muaj cov kws kho mob zoo heev ... Nws tsis yog kuv txoj kev.
Thiab thaum twg koj hla txoj kev ua yeeb yam? Thaum twg koj paub tias nws yog koj li?
Kuv yeej tsis tau ntseeg tseeb. Kuv pib thaum ib tug menyuam yaus - piv rau kev kawm suab paj nruag, uas yog ib feem tseem ceeb ntawm kuv thiab kuv yuav tsis tso tseg: nws zoo li ib txoj hauv kev ua kom lub ntiaj teb zoo dua. Tej zaum vim kuv los ntawm ib tsev neeg ntawm cov kws ua yeeb yam, kuv tau txais kev txhawb zog rau kev kos duab.

Golshifteh Farahani Ib lub rooj zaum hauv Tunis

Golshifteh Farahani hauv lub rooj zaum hauv Tunis

Ib tsev neeg ntawm cov kws kos duab

Qhia rau peb txog koj li.
Kuv txiv yog ib tug kws sau ntawv, thawj coj, ua yeeb yam; kuv niam yog ib tug neeg pleev kob thiab ua yeeb yam. Kuv tus viv ncaus yog ib tus neeg ua yeeb yam thiab kuv tus tij laug yog tus ntaus suab paj nruag, kos duab, kos duab kos duab thiab kuj yog ib tus neeg ua yeeb yam. Tab sis - Kuv ua siab ncaj - kev cia siab tau hloov pauv thiab kev ua yeeb yam tam sim no yog txoj haujlwm. Tab sis nws tau qhia kuv ntau txog kev muaj sia nyob: qhov tseeb tias peb muab peb tus kheej lub luag haujlwm sib txawv thiab ua si zoo heev uas peb tsis nco qab peb yog leej twg, piv txwv li. Nrog rau qhov no, Kuv xav tias tsis muaj dab tsi txuas nrog. Lub hom phiaj ntawm lub neej tsis yog los sau, nws yog kom tshem tawm. Kuv tsis xav kov yeej tej yam, kuv xav tshem ntawm lawv! Tawm nrog lub hnab nqa khoom, lightness! Tab sis, kom ncaj ncees, tej zaum kuv muaj ib qho txuas.
Yuav ua li cas?
Txuas rau kev hlub. Kev hlub thiab kev hlub. Goshifteh txhais tau tias "Vajtswv paj hauv kev hlub", zoo meej rau kuv! (laughs) Nyob rau hauv Farsi "Gol" yog paj, "shifteh" qhia hais tias lub xeev uas precedes npau taws, yuav luag ib tug hypnosis ...
Tus cwj pwm tsis zoo tshaj plaws ua rau tus txiv neej?
Au tus Tswv, kuv tsis xav tias koj yuav xav paub nws ... (laughs) Kuv sau tau ib phau ntawv txog nws! Kuv hlawv kuv tus kheej, kuv muab kuv tus kheej rau hauv qhov hluav taws kub (metaphorically, tau kawg!). Kuv nqis peev rau hauv nws, Kuv twv kuv tus plig rau nws, tsis ntshai poob. Kuv tsis tuaj yeem muab kuv tus kheej pov rau hauv kev lag luam yog tias tsis yog ib puas feem pua. Thiab thaum koj ua si tag nrho, yog tias koj poob koj poob nws tag nrho. Koj tig mus rau tshauv thiab pib tag nrho dua ... Txaus ntshai.

"Tus txiv neej tiag tiag"

Nws puas poob rov qab txhua lub sijhawm?
Kuv rov qab los… Yog, txhua zaus. Hnub no qhov xwm txheej tau hloov pauv: Kuv tsis muab kuv tus plig pov rau ntawm lub rooj. Kuv khaws cia rau kuv tus kheej, kuv nqis peev rau kuv tus kheej.
Qee tus khub niam txiv sib cav hais tias - txhawm rau kom muaj kev noj qab haus huv thiab kev sib raug zoo - koj yuav tsum xub sawv ntawm koj tus kheej.
Kuv pom zoo: yog tias koj yog ib khob khoob, koj tuaj yeem hliv rau lwm qhov? Kuv txuas ntxiv tackle txhua yam ib puas feem pua ​​tab sis nrog rau txoj kev sib txawv: Kuv tsis twv, kuv tsim. Koj yuav tsum nkag siab thaum nws tsim nyog: yog tias koj cog nyom, tsob ntoo yuav tsis loj hlob. Yog tias koj cog ntoo thuv lossis ntoo qhib, cov noob ntawd muaj peev xwm zoo. Kuv yeej ib txwm tsis ncaj ncees lawm, nqis peev hauv cov noob zoo li lawv yog cov ntoo liab. Thaum koj paub tseeb tias cov noob zoo, thaum lub sijhawm ntawd koj txhawj xeeb txog cov av zoo, watering ...
Nws puas tau ntsib ib qho "zoo"?
Yog! Tom qab 12-13 xyoos (nws tau sib yuav rau Australian tus kws kho mob, kws tshaj lij hauv psychosomatics, Christos Dorje Walker thiab rau Franco-Iranian tus tsim tawm Amin Mahdavi, nrog rau kev koom nrog Louis Garrel, ndr), xyoo 2019 kuv thaum kawg pom ib tug tsim nyog saib xyuas. Nws yog ib qho khoom plig ntawm txoj hmoo, raws li nws tau hais rau kuv: "Ok, koj tau ua tiav txaus, koj tau them koj cov nuj nqis ... ". Kuv xav tias kuv tsis yuam kev, thiab raws li cov phooj ywg thiab cov niam txiv nws ua haujlwm ib yam nkaus. Kuv zoo siab!

Nruab nrab ntawm Spain thiab Portugal

Koj nyob qhov twg?
Nruab nrab ntawm Spain thiab Portugal. Kuv pom tau hais tias kuv tsis nyob hauv tsev ntau rau kev cog lus rau kev tshaj lij (lub sijhawm no cov yeeb yam twb raug tua. Qhov muag tsis pom kev, ua movie Extraction, ntawm Netflix txij li lub Plaub Hlis 24, thiab nyob hauv Hollywood ntawm qhov teeb tsa ntawm nws thawj TV series, ndr): Thaum kuv so kuv xav nyob ntsuab, muaj vaj.
Dab tsi koj tshwj xeeb nco txog Iran?
Txhua tus! (sighs) Nws yog ib qho chaw tshwj xeeb, nyuaj piav, tsis muaj dab tsi piv tau ... Kev hlub ntawm tib neeg, kev sib xyaw ntawm xwm- kab lis kev cai-architecture. Txhua yam yog txawv txawv, tsuas yog tsoom fwv txaus ntshai. Kuv muaj nostalgia. Hmoov tsis zoo kuv paub tias lub teb chaws ntawm kuv txoj kev npau suav tsis muaj lawm ... 

Kab lus Golshifteh Farahani: "Kuv yog lub paj vwm hauv kev hlub" zoo li yog thawj tus iO Poj Niam.

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